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In this episode of Back in Session, hosts Ryan Stevens and Ryan DeMara speak with Anne Gingerich, Executive Director of the Pennsylvania Association of Nonprofit Organizations (PANO), about the significant role nonprofits play in the Commonwealth—and how ongoing state and federal budget uncertainty is impacting their ability to serve communities. Anne shares recent data on the financial strain faced by nonprofits, the scale of reduced services, and the importance of long-term public policy engagement. She also explains how organizations can get involved in advocacy while staying compliant, and highlights tools PANO provides to support nonprofit leadership across Pennsylvania.
About PANO:
PANO (the Pennsylvania Association of Nonprofit Organizations) is a statewide membership organization supporting the thousands of nonprofits that serve millions of people in the Commonwealth.
Learn more: https://pano.org/


In the latest episode of Back in Session, hosts Ryan Stevens and Ryan DeMara talk with Anne Gingerich, Executive Director of the Pennsylvania Association of Nonprofit Organizations (PANO), about how budget uncertainty at both the state and federal levels is affecting nonprofit organizations across Pennsylvania.
From funding delays to workforce challenges, Anne provides a behind-the-scenes look at the current reality for nonprofits operating in Pennsylvania.
Episode Highlights
A Sector with Major Reach
Pennsylvania is home to nearly 49,000 charitable nonprofits—making up over 15% of the state’s workforce. These organizations play a vital role in both community services and the state’s economy.
Survey Results: What’s Happening Now
Anne shares new data collected by PANO and other statewide groups showing the real-time effects of the state budget impasse:
- Hundreds of nonprofits are facing service reductions.
- Staff layoffs are increasing.
- Organizations are borrowing millions to stay operational.
Understanding the Local Angle
Anne explains why Pennsylvania’s nonprofit landscape is unique, shaped by its status as a commonwealth and strong local ties between organizations and the communities they serve.
Nonprofits and Policy
Anne discusses how laws, regulations, and delayed funding impact day-to-day operations—and why staying engaged with policymakers matters. She also outlines a few legislative proposals that could offer long-term support to the sector.
Tools and Resources from PANO
From governance support to legal resources and training, PANO offers a range of services to help nonprofits navigate compliance, staffing, and funding challenges.
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